I find that 30 gallons of sawdust is already more than I want to lift. The impeller blade was so out of balance that a local machine shop wouldn't even touch it to try to repair it, and he had to get it totally replaces. I ordered the C-Flux from the local Woodcraft. Upgrades to the C Flux cyclone dust collectors include a dual-paddle filter cleaning design and a 46-gallon capacity on the C Flux 2 and 3 models. I'm sure I could find one for less, but that replacement cost is much more than I originally paid for this tool. P Flux models start at $2,899. You are using an out of date browser. Have any of you guys checked out JDS dust collectors. Woodturningit's not just a past time, it's all the time https://www.amazon.com/Oneida-Air-S=1&keywords=dust+deputy&qid=1601860867&sr=8-5, https://www.aawforum.org/community/media/users/gerald-lawrence.20956/. So I am looking for a new one. For now, she's alive! This article was originally published in the March 2022 issue. We undersize based on our needs. 2022 Cruz Bay Publishing, Inc. an Active Interest Media company. I just bought one a few weeks ago and have been very happy with it.

I have a Jet AFS 1000B mounted in the ceiling. I have the 3 hp version of that older model and have been generally pleased with it. So I am looking for a new one. Got to it after lunch, changed out and plugged it in. Repair shop is 30ish miles from my place. Like others said - since the trash can gets the finer particles and packs it down it will be VERY heavy when it gets full. Here are some supplies and tools we find essential in our everyday work around the shop.

One test I saw mentioned how good the dust separation was on the 1.5hp model you are looking at. Duct design is incredibly important. Couldn't get it started again. They were not around when I got my Oneida. container and it's good for a couple hundred BF of lumber depending on how much stock your taking off. Apparently it was hard wired in a manner so that when it did trip, you couldn't reset it, or some electrical talk like that. The content contained on this site is provided for informational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. I purchase all lumber rough cut so I have a lot more chips to collect to get to finished size (I get much straighter stock this way). I looked at it, decided I can due 2 screws without shorting myself out so we will see if that fixes it. An auto-cleaning feature is now standard for the P Flux, available with 1.5-, 2- or 3-hp motors. I have a Grizzly that has been going strong for about 23 years. After speaking to Oneida I may go with the V3000 system. I would second this, I just bought one myself and love it. If the cap does not fix it, I will drop it off at the repair shop for their help, it would be over my head/experience.

What you do between those is up to you. https://lagunatools.com/classic-machinery/dust-collectors/cflux-1-5-hp-cyclone/, http://www.jettools.com/us/en/p/jcdc-1-5-cyclone-dust-collector-1-5hp-115v/717515, Re: Dust Collector for garage. I'm looking at the Laguna 1.5HP & Jet 1.5HP. Put collector back together, fired 'er up and she went to town, sucking up a storm. Truly head-spin worthy if you try to speed read thru it. JavaScript is disabled. Picked up the starter capacitor this morning. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. They will design your duct systems for you. Not sure about the other systems, but I have a 3 hp Oneida, which can handle 2 machines at once. Well, as good as a `20 yr old tool. Providing marketing, business, and financial consultancy for our creators and clients powered by our influencer platform, Allstars Indonesia (allstars.id). Lots of folks will upgrade their systems, even cyclones. Thanks for the info. Both were very very helpful. If there is no centrifugal switch (unlikely) then it could be a current sensing relay and you would probably need help. I have the same question. 2Hp does not sound like enough for a 20" planer. I was looking at Jet & Laguna because I heard they would be on sale for Black Friday. In fact, 15 or 20 gallons is a bit to haul. Spun like she was new. I find that we tend to plan our needs for dust collectors a bit too "optimistic". Personally Im trying to decide between the Pflux 1.5 and the Mini Gorilla. #1 producer of sawdust in at least a 4 block radius of Lincoln, NE. Grizzly jet and Powermatic are all made innthe same country I think. I'd rather have the new camper but with covid not going to happen this year. I will say Oneida seemed more interested in earning my business than Laguna.

Started too small with dumb design and over time have something now that works. That's why the short-cone systems make a big point of having a built-in beater to help clean the filter. Did the motor burn out or just stop working? That would be a cheaper solution. Rockler had them on sale but after shipping it was only $20 more to order from the local store and I like to support local shops when I can. Come winter, I might be able to go that high without sleeping in the dog-house. LOL. The garage is wired for 110, but I'll probably have to add another circuit. I'm not totally sold on Oneida but am leaning that way. I figured, what do I have to loose, so I went for it. I still don't trust Grizzly. Laguna Tools announces upgrades to its lineup of C Flux and P Flux cyclones and the upcoming launch of its new X Flux 5 dust collector. This page was generated at 08:49 PM. check out the. Laguna offered a whole new machine or just the motor; I went for the latter (didn't want to disassemble the old one and ship) and it runs fine now. In my opinion, a cyclone separator is a must if you use the unit in any serious way. I was just looking at those, interesting. It is made in New York. *If you are unable to login and cannot reset your password, the fastest way to contact us is by creating a temporary account and sending a pm to the sysadmin account. Welcome new registering member. Some people claim that the shorter cyclone design used by Laguna and other manufacturers can reduce effective separation of fines from larger dust particles and cause the filter to clog faster. It is 240V so you'll need to wire for it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You want that one to do the job right out of the box. (This post was last modified: 03-31-2018, 09:22 PM by, The "air flow" listedon the8" inlet is 4380 CFM, Once Favre hangs it up though, it years of cellar dwelling for the Pack. Festool USA does not pre-approve the contents of this website nor endorse the application or use of any Festool product in any way other than in the manner described in the Festool Instruction Manual.

I bought the older 2HP white one earlier this year. etc. I don't have a jointer or planer yet. Now, thanks to years of hard work, careful planning, and perseverance, I find I still have most of it left. Yea, I checked my tools, nothing missing LOL, but for SnGs I will go through the chip bag to make sure it was a big piece of bark and not a tool that went through it. I was trained in aircraft electronics, not elec. Today while running it to collect dust at my workbench from sanding, it just stopped like I had turned the switch off. I would like a cyclone collector but open to other styles. JavaScript is disabled. That is, more dust gets to the filter. The Chinese motor burned up (as in smoking windings!) So far, so good. American motor and dust collection is all this company does. Looking at 115v, don't want to mess with 220 wiring again. Here's my comment on the bin size, when it comes time to lug it to the curb I'd rather tote 30 gallons of sawdust that 55 gallons, even if I have to tote twice as often. Look again, the 4380 is FPS, not CFM. Oneida Air introducesSupercell dust collector. "Screen names" and "handles" are not allowed and your registration will be deleted if you don't use your real name. Interesting thread. Festool makes no representations about the accuracy, reliability, completeness or timeliness of the material on this website or about the results to be obtained from using the website. Werea team of creatives who are excited about unique ideas and help digital and others companies tocreate amazing identity. If they say it takes alot to fix it or needs replaced, I will again look at a new cyclone.

Careful, don't smoke the motor windings.

I almost pulled the trigger on 220v Oneida but backed off for now. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I would think if they can make any size they should be able to. I agree with PackerGuy and EdL. Decided on the Laguna, I move my stuff around alot and the Laguna looked beefier for that. Like Robo I have the 30gal because I have height limitations where I mounted it. yeah, I've done some research the last few days and initially my impression was Laguna is a high end tool company, but finding out that at least with their dust collectors, both the product and sometimes service was spotty. Sounds like every thing else on the DC is good. All my other festool tools I'll have hooked up to the CT26e. I spoke to both Laguna and Oneida reps. I had the large Delta dust collector for a lot of years when I did almost all flat work utilizing a table saw, 15" planer, 8" jointer, etc. This seems to only apply to the 3hp models and up.

JavaScript is disabled. Plus I had about $200 in store credit so I was only out of pocket about $900. I do like inexpensive repairs but when it can be replaced for a couple more $$s, it's time. Did you check all the usual suspects - switch, outlet, circuit breaker, capacitor? Looking at a Laguna C/Flux:1 also. Been using it hard for about 15 years now with no issues. Oneida, Clear Vue, JDS focus their success on high end dust separation. What an amazing difference in dust capture as well as planer, jointer and router table debris. Wife rides with me on the trike so her. comfort kinda takes preference for now.

Laguna Tools has added features to its C Flux and P Flux cyclone dust collectors and added a new model, the X Flux 5, a single-stage collector with a 39-gallon drum on locking castors. But really worth looking over. I have the 35 gal. Bearing in mind that the ratings on them are under perfect, lab conditionsthat NEVER occur in the real world shop environment. motors and it has been a looooooong time. Which did you end up choosing? I added the pleated filter and that helped a lot . Regarding canister size. All of these machines will be plenty for only using 1 tool at a time. If it does fix it, I'm still going to modify mine. I know this is not a popular opinion among woodworkers. and I got tired of the amount of dust in the air and issues with the cloth bags so I switched to a 3 hp Oneida V system. Other than them, I know of Clear View, and they got a lot of good reviews. You are born weak & frail, and you die weak & frail. Powermatic introduces the model PM2200 cyclone dust collector, featuring HEPA filtration and a 2-hp, 230-volt, single-phase motor that moves up to 1,543 cu. If I end up running 220, it will be an Oneida I think but would really like to be able to use the 120v/20amp outlets I have. Another contender to consider is the Oneida Air Systems 1.5hp Mini Gorilla. Last year I got the Dust Deputy 5" from Amazon. He had to drill out most of the holes on the frame because they didn't fit or line up. I try to keep repair cost of any unit to 75% or less than original cost, any more and tool gets replaced. I finally figured out how to deal with sawdust in my hair. Curious, John..what died? Been a while since I looked. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I started with absolutely nothing. I have a 2 bagger grizzly and like it.

This year I added their new noise baffle. My Oneida works great no dust in the shop. They have some that are very small foot prints, and have flow ratings that you can trust. I have the 3 hp Oneida and love it. - Its not that Im so smart, its just that I stay with problems longer. Albert Einstein. I hate throw away tools. Motor shop quoted me $600 out the door for a replacement motor. Nope, did not hit it by accident LOL Tried to fire it back up nothing, not even a groan. It even includes free plans and drawings for making your own 2 stage cyclone dust collector. Thanks. Took hoses off, opened up and discovered some bent vanes, straightened them up and still dead to the world.

Current systainer to productivity ratio: very high. If this is your first visit, be sure to Come join the discussion about shop safety, wood, carpentry, lumber, finishing, tools, machinery, woodworking related topics, styles, scales, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I would get more stuff on me cleaning the bag than turning a bowl. I'm going to spend some time looking at all the brands and ratings again, that 3k for an DC would go far in comfort items for my new scoot. https://www.canadianwoodworker.com/warget=LA015DCP, http://forum.canadianwoodworking.comlems-with-them. 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Is Oneida the only one made in the USA? I called and talked to them, they said sounds like starter cap. They said we don't have that one in stock but for $5 they will order it for me. A while back I posted asking opinions about purchasing the 3HP Powermatic dust collector seen. Undersizing will leave you frustrated, and not getting the results you had hoped for - chiefly, keeping the air cleaner for your health and keeping your shop space cleaner.

Something to consider when comparing dust collectors is how much you anticipate moving it around your garage. A forum community dedicated to professional woodworkers and enthusiasts. It has a new canister/filter, sure would be nice to not spend 2-3k for a new set-up. I have a G1029 that I bought in 1991, I've gone through multiple table saws and jointers but this is the one constant in my shop. Capacitor(s) may be okay could also be the centrifugal switch. Many of the short-cone designs even have a motorized beater. I have the Oneida Supercell (35 gallon) great machine with incredible suction. The all-new X Flux 5 boasts a powerful 5-hp motor and impressive 1,823 cfm, the company said in a statement. I'll check that one out as well. Sisingamangaraja No.21,Kec. It is also quieter - and my wife will happily attest to that. As packerguy said, call Oneida.my 3hp Dust Ape was/is the BEST thing I've ever bought for my shop. Great company and customer support and they seems to have this cyclone thing down pat. Oneida has a new high pressure system that looks intriguing. I almost pulled the trigger on 220v Oneida but backed off for now. I'm not too concerned with the CFM. Shiny/new is fun!! They fixed it for me, and it is still running strong. Will echo some of the same things - go bigger than you think you need, 30 gal trash can with separator on top is great, scoop up what you can with a shovel first then suck up the rest, use 4"+ hose wherever you can, filter bags are a real pain. I want the winner to be the quieter unit but I dont really have a way to determine that lol. It may not display this or other websites correctly.

ft. of air per minute, according to the company. I would say eventually I'll add those. Guy at electric shop said it is what he calls a throw-away motor, not if but when it dies, better off replacing the whole unit. I think they are a bit expensive for what they are, but everyone that has them seem to rave over them, Dust Collector for garage. It did take 220. To reduce the risk of serious injury and/or damage to your Festool product, always read, understand and follow all warnings and instructions in your Festool product's Instruction Manual. If the contracts don't open as the motor comes up to speed then you get the condition you described as "Motor at first would run up about half speed then pop the push button breaker". My Oneida did shut down once. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. There are other smaller units available but I wouldn't go any smaller than this, for future expansion. https://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp, https://lagunatools.com//dust-collec/cflux-1-5-hp-cyclone/, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. That PM DC has some bells and whistles you don't see on other models (vacuum to hold the debris bag, and a pressure gauge) but that probably doesn't justify the price. The C Flux models start at $1,999. We understand that creators can excel further. I bought the 1.5 P Flux last year during the black Friday sale and have been very happy with it. I was hoping to get some opinions on 2 dust collectors I'm looking at purchase for my garage. Your username must be your real First and Last name (for example: John Doe). That's still probably not correct, but if more comparable to what the others indicate. I have had 2 Laguna motors where the centrifugal switches failed, resulting in the same issue you are seeing.

So for a while now I've been casually shopping for a dust collector to put into my shop, which is equal parts WW / auto. (Geoff 12-18-07), (This post was last modified: 04-01-2018, 06:25 AM by, (This post was last modified: 04-09-2018, 12:38 AM by, https://www.oneida-air.com/inventory.asp9DC8B19%7D. With dust collectors to me it's Oneida or bust. It will be in my garage. I'm sure they are having a hard time getting supplies just like every one else with the pandemic. but frankly afraid to mess with capacitors.

Not sure how you can get that much difference of CFM's out of a machine that look that similar? Our vision is to become an ecosystem of leading content creation companies through creativity, technology and collaboration, ultimately creating sustainable growth and future proof of the talent industry. So, I guess next time it dies, I'll have my oneida fund built up. Thanks everybody! I have no experience with them, but Clear View is another DC system, and I am pretty sure they are made in USA. Lol, I've got the 110V predecessor of the Laguna cflux-. Looking at 115v, don't want to mess with 220 wiring again. How fast do they get filled when planing or jointing ? You are using an out of date browser. There are only two moving parts on a DC - the motor shaft and impeller. Right before shutting down on me, she was vibrating pretty bad, bad enough it cracked the electronics box on motor in half.. wow, must have had a previous crack somewhere. It's on sale now for $325 and interestingly, I paid the same price 26 years ago. I have an Oneida Supercell with the 35 gallon drum and have been well pleased with it. They show CFM at 1543. It's proven to be a workhorse. Bill Pentz has a website that has a HUGE amount of information on it. I was looking at some Jet and Laguna DCs earlier today, and the way my new shop will be set up I just couldnt decide if they would work. There is literally thousands of hours on it and the only thing I've had to do was tighten the impeller bolts twice. What does the planer mfg suggest? 30gal is great plenty for lathe (only use for dust), tablesaw, bandsaw, mitersaw and even router table (not used for long periods). What is currently stopping me is the 35 gallon version is a 10 week wait, the 55 gallon version is a 4 week wait. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I prefer 220.but I can understand it can be expensive if you have to pay someone to install it. My first was a 2hp Grizzly, after a couple years I made a home made cyclone for it and dumped the bags - much better. Thanks.

Some of the things it comes standard with, seem to be options on the Laguna. All Rights Reserved. Reviving this old post!

I recently ordered one after doing a lot of research, waiting on it due to backorder. Especially since my log splitter took a dump, ordered a new one today. it's always something.. LOL.

I hoping I can use the vast experience of the members to help with a dust collector choice. May be wrong its. Cyclones like heavier chips and the X Flux 5 would be better suited to handle fine dust, and its geared towards the upscale home hobby shops through the small pro shop, adds Lagunas Benjamin Helshoj in an interview with Woodshop News. You might verify that the centrifugal switch contacts are closed for starting. I ordered at the beginning of this year and it was shipped much earlier than the estimated ship date posted on their website. Well, maybe after I fix hydraulics on one tractor, leak on another, then rewire a friends tractor, mow 3 acres covered in leaves, til those leaves/grass under in garden, butcher bout a dozen roosters, cut another load of firewood man it never ends. Kind of funny about the CFM's of the Powermatic and the Laguna as if you look at the pictures of the two units they look like the same machines except for a few cosmetic differences???? Back to making shavings! Those that have them really like them. I have the Onieda Mini Gorilla 110v, and like it a lot. Used another 6-7yrs with cyclone. You must log in or register to reply here. The only thing I dont like is the remote is a $80 option with Oneida. I believe that dust collection is one of those specialized applications that might be best served by manufacturers who specialize in dust collection. Holy $!/&, lets wake it up and bust em out!!! Reduces the sound level by about 10db. All rights reserved. Remote and LED drum light are standard.. Relatively quiet, good build quality, good performance, sturdy, and great support from Oneida. Short-cone designs like the Laguna extract less dust from the airstream than long-cone designs. Oversizing a dust collector results in no harm. Youre dust collector is in Coma Prison!! At FAS, we invest in creators that matters. I'm the only one who uses this, so it would most likely be just 1 tool at a time being used. CT-MIDI, C-18, RO-150, RO-90, OF-1010, OF-1400, MFK-700, MFK-700EQ/B, EHL-65, DTS-400, LS-130, MFT/3 (x4), MFT/Kapex (x3), KA 65 Conturo, endless Systainers. Although Festool strives for accuracy in the website material, the website may contain inaccuracies. Your use of any material contained on this website is entirely at your own risk. I have searched for info on here about the Grizzly G0860, only found one thread with little info. Yes, I'll keep that in mind. Not only as talents, but also as the core of new business expansions aligned with their vision, expertise, and target audience. Also, do not use all caps nor all lower case. Properly sized, you will only ever need one. Hello everybody. If I decide to put in 220, I will get the Oneida Supercell 55 gallon. The $5 cap fix got me another 10 months use, well, a good hard use for 6 months. Umm, maybe if the motor dies again, get a good motor to replace it. For those with these nice dust collectors would you mind commenting on the capacity of the bin ? in the first 4 hours. It doesn't take much to end up with $3k medical bills.. Welp, to resurrect an old thread. time has come to play the taps for this DC. I want to turn-baby-turn! Now if you want to save cash, you could always look around for used equipment. Thats how I got mine, which BTW is an older Oneida unit. I have searched for info on here about the Grizzly G0860, only found one thread with little info. Cloth filter bags are a PINTA to dump and clean which will be frequent if you do not have a cyclone.